The big idea: how do we create inspirational customer journeys?
Waymaker podcast: S1:E14
Customer experience is how we use the disciplines of sales, marketing and service.
We unpack the Seven Question’s in Waymaker’s Growth Framework on the Leadership Curve and what your organization can do to create a valuable journey for your customers.
Listen & watch ‘CX Customer Journey | How To Acquire, Retain & Grow Customers’
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Transcript
CX Customer Journey
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welcome to leadership talk
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the official waymaker podcast where we
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explore how your organization can
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achieve more by doing less
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welcome to leadership talk the official
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waymaker podcast my name is craig and
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with me as usual on the sunny gold coast
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is stuart leo ceo and founder of
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waymaker how are you mate fantastic
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fantastic
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dude that’s good well it it’s the
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very last day of winter which i’m stoked
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about because winter has kind of
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semi-sucked
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it’s kind of sucked for all the southern
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states in australia it is yeah you’ve
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been in lockdowns
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as opposed to you i know who was out
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about near jet ski on the weekend i saw
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on social media the the great beached
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whale was uh was on the jet ski and with
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the kids having a ball of a time in
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24 25 degree
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celsius um blue skies
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water’s warmish and it’s just
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god’s promised land around here it helps
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to live just south of the tropic of
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capricorn
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yeah that’s right that’s right
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it’s um
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it was actually so nice to actually get
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get sunshine warmth salt air it just it
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makes you feel alive it’s great yeah
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there’s no segue i can really jump on
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here um stu but i’m gonna just take us
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straight into this episode that’s
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probably a good idea
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yeah the last the last um the last few
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episodes we’ve been talking about
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employee experience and we’re going to
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start to dive into
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customer experience
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in this episode that’s right we’re
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working kind of in reverse
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around the seven questions on waymakers
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growth framework the leadership curve
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and those seven questions um
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uh if we go in correct order um yeah uh
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from
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vision to market to i’m not giving you
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exact questions you can jump and look at
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those vision to market to strategy
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to business model to customer experience
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to employee experience to what actions
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or goals shift the needle on the
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business
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and so you’re right with
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four or five episodes ago we talked
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about goals
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we talked about leading and lagging
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metrics we talked about good goal
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setting and how goals create alignment
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question seven is the most important
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question um
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which is what one two or three things
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that if delivered in the next quarter a
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half are going to shift the needle on
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the business
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and that really sharpens your focus on
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okay
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across
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the business or the organization
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and we we put that system of
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of organization
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into
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six interconnected buckets or slices of
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the pie so to speak
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being employee experience customer
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experience the business model
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strategy market and vision
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and
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employee experience is all about how do
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we acquire retain and grow the right
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talent
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customer experience which we’re talking
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about today is all about how do we
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acquire retain and grow customers
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customers yep the business model is all
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about how do we create commercial value
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and build value out of pulling the parts
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together and specifically what practices
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and key metrics
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um do we use
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and strategy is all about how do we
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find our competitive advantage and
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position in market
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and market is all about well what is our
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market who’s our ideal customer and what
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do they value
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and vision is all about purpose what
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problem do we solve therefore what
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purpose do we have
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and how does that achieving that purpose
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daily reach us towards our ultimate
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vision so
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at the end of the day we want to help
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leaders shift their teams
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into the right behaviors to get from
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here to there whatever there is for your
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organization
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and there we believe that
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some of the old practices of the 20th
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century are no longer relevant for the
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21st century
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and that we need to think differently
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we need to think more deeply but we need
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to be able to think more quickly whilst
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thinking more deeply and the seven
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questions actually
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help you do that and the seven questions
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are
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baked into the diagnostic and algorithms
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of waymaker so
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we’re we’re one of the first um if not
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the first
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strategic management platform in the
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world that has baked the thinking model
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deep into the
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algorithms and programmatic work that
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sits inside
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the tech
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bringing skills and systems together
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which is what the waymaker leadership
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curve is all about
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and today
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that was a really long way to get to
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today uh we’re all about customer
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experience uh i was actually going to
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say i was actually going to say well how
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does how does cx fit into that
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leadership curve and that framework but
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you’ve pretty much
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kind of summarize well yeah i think so
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and see getting from a to b or a to z
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from here to there um getting your
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organization up that curve
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is all about um
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identifying what are the best practice
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activities um and our leadership curve
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there’s actually um eight of them
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sitting behind that that master curve
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identifies all the best practice skills
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and systems and when you take the
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diagnostic it measures you your
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organization on those so you can
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actually go oh wow they’re the things i
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should do first
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how does cx fit into the bucket well
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um it’s our belief from research and
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observation across business for the last
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five or ten years
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that there’s six things
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that you’ve got to kind of keep in
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balance as you get that organization
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growing and scaling up the curve
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those six things being vision market
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strategy business models cx and ex
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but the thing that keeps them in balance
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is forward movement
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um
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you’ve got to have forward movement and
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forward movement comes from action which
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comes from goals so the seventh
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thing is the thing that turns good ideas
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into results which is action goals
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so
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every organization will at some point be
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attacking this this area of customer
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experience and trying to find
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fit by going how do we systematically
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and repeatedly acquire retain and grow
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customers how do we improve that and
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because
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all organizations are not closed systems
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they’re open systems i.e
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things that happen around you and inside
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you affect
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you as an organization
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then life can change by stuff that
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happens on the inside and life can
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change by stuff that happens on the
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outside outside being customers market
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technology politics governance
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so keeping these six areas of the
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business
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in a state
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and i think in the past we’ve talked
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about in the body your body keeps the
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systems in alignment through this thing
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called homeostasis it’s it’s the way the
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body stays healthy
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keeping your organization healthy is
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about keeping these six systems
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in alignment and healthy
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and customer experience is
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i’m not going to say one of the most
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important because they’re all important
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but probably one of the biggest and
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deepest areas it’s
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not all parts
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are as deep
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as each other
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but all when not right throw the
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organization off kilter make you sick
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and so customer experience is that part
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that that system within the system of
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the organization that is very deep and
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it actually covers
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sales and marketing and service um it’s
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quite a deep area
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well you mentioned sales and marketing
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and normally like the whole idea of
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acquiring retaining and growing
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customers is
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like the domain traditionally of sales
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and marketing so why customer experience
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yeah good question um
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so let’s let’s put the waymaker
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definition to this customer experience
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is the unification
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of sales marketing and service on on
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technology in order to create
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inspirational branded moments across the
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customer journey so
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that’s quite a big definition um yeah so
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it’s it’s the unification of sales
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marketing and service those disciplines
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on a technology platform
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to create inspirational branded moments
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across the customer journey
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so the big idea here is
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how do we create a journey for our
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customers that’s inspirational valuable
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that draws them through
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a
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discovery consideration
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purchase process
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but also into a retention and a growth
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journey to stay with you
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and so customer experience is how we use
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those disciplines of sales marketing and
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service to do that
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and
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and so that’s that’s different that’s
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technology has shifted the landscape
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over the last 10 years
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for every organization
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on this
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and so that thinking around customer
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experience
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it’s the culmination it’s that
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synergistic outcome of sales marketing
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service on technology creating something
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bigger
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and that’s that’s what we call customer
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experience it’s all about acquiring
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retaining and growing customers so if we
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think about customer experience in that
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light we’ve got to think
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about not working as departments in
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silos
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but working as a product team or a
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service team or
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or a team
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with the skills of sales and marketing
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and service in order to draw that
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customer through a journey and because
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the customer journey
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has changed so dramatically over the
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last
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five to 15 years
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we have to bring in
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elements of digital elements of
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technology and we have to understand the
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journey
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as a distinct journey that’s that’s the
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big shift and so
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i think um
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i think it was peter drucker and we love
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drucker because
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he’s you know the godfather of modern
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business
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and he had this famous quote uh around
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marketing innovation um
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we and i’ll read this because it’s so
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good because the purpose of business is
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to create a customer
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the business enterprise has two and only
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two basic functions
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marketing and innovation
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marketing and innovation produce results
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all the rest are costs
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marketing is the distinguishing unique
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function of the business peter drucker
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and i remember reading that 20 25 years
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ago and being so inspired
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as a young
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young marketer business person
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in grad school learning these early
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skills
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going wow that’s amazing
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and i think today if he was to say that
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he wouldn’t say marketing innovation
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he would probably say
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customer experience and innovation
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and the reason for that is because
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the term marketing
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since the
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60s 70s whenever whenever he said that
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or wrote those words
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has become so bastardized to mean
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advertising and promotions
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yeah marketing no longer means marketing
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in
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in drucker’s day
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marketing
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meant
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the how do you acquire retain grow
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customers using the skills of selling
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communications service advertising
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promotions distribution
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you know the classic four ps of
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marketing
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and that’s where we need to think about
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customer experience
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and it’s it’s really
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marketing 2.0 or 3.0 if you want to call
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it like that
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so i think when we say customer
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experience
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old-school marketers go hey that’s just
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marketing new school marketers go oh wow
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this new science of customer experience
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not really it’s kind of just the same
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thing repackaged but with a lot more
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technology and i think that’s the big
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difference um yeah and that’s the bit
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that you highlight in your definition
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it’s the technology element and how the
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technology is used to engage that’s
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customer because technology um is
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is um the foundation of every discipline
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in the business there’s
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there’s ex tech there’s cx tech there’s
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tech to understand communicate vision
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there’s tech around business models and
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strategy there’s tech everywhere in the
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business
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there’s no so no such thing as an
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information technology department
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anymore
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um there’s just technology in every
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department of the business and the point
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we’re really trying to make here
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is
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this bucket of cx is all about the
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science of unpacking the customer
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journey and the beautiful thing about
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life today is that we have so much data
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around that journey
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we can understand
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the roadblocks and the steps and the
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triggers so
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customer experience is the science of
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sales and marketing service and the tech
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that supports those disciplines
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and it’s about building teams in your
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organization that aren’t marketing teams
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or aren’t service teams or aren’t sales
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teams
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but our customer experience teams
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because you need to deploy skills of
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selling and deploy skills of marketing
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and deploy skills of service at all
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different points
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along that journey and
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you can’t you can’t just have
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one discipline if i can if i can say
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that say marketing or sales or service
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functioning that notes and and that’s
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why in today’s organization certainly
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the organizations that win
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and that uh are growing they think
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differently in this space
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yeah and this is why you’re talking
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about the journey because like maybe
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in the simplest terms we think about
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like
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a win as the sale of a widget or a
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transaction that takes place right
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that’s right as opposed to a win might
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actually just be stepping the customer
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along the next step that’s right
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in the process and and that’s i mean
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you go through any kind of 101 sales and
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marketing training
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and what all you’re taught and we we
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shout this manchester all the time
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all you’ve got to do is
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communicate or sell to the next step of
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the journey that’s all you’ve got to do
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i jokingly always talk about this is the
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dating game
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nobody
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gets married on the first date and
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if you do it’s generally not the one
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you’re on a sick guy that’s right it’s
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genuinely not the type of person you
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want for life
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you
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you must
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learn and understand and get to know
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there’s a journey to go through there’s
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milestones there’s first date second
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date um you know we’ll stop there
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because we could just go totally off the
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rails
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but
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the customer is in in this constant
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state of um enticement and journey
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and and so you’ve got to understand how
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do we
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how do we bring awareness to them that
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we have a solution to their problem
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how do they consider that are they
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already problem aware or not problem
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aware in the marketplace
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what is it about our product or service
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that solves their problem and how do we
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understand
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their
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discovery and consideration and buying
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journey
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and what are the specific roadblocks
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along that journey and how do we make it
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easy and that’s
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that ultimately
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unlocks new opportunities across the
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business and
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businesses like uber have looked at
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industries where
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people haven’t done that for many many
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years because the technology wasn’t
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there or whatever and gone wow we could
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we could remove so much pain
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in the in the taxi journey
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if we actually redesigned the customer
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experience and
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if you do that what does the rest of the
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business look like and so
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customer experience is about saying that
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how do we identify roadblocks
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how do we remove those roadblocks and
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how do we make that journey smoother and
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smoother to purchase and repurchase
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consistently and and so it’s a
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that’s why the waymaker leadership model
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is a continuous improvement model it the
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the acquisition retention process you
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have today might be good you might be on
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the journey to great
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but you’ve you’ve got to be continuously
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removing those roadblocks and maturity
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comes when when those processes skills
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and systems are smooth
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to easily acquire through consistent
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repetitive
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systems and processes
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um
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i actually want to show a clip here
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um and it’s actually nothing to do with
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business
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um but it’s everything to do with
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identifying roadblocks in a journey
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let’s throw to it now poor specker for
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example who beat me the first three
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times we we played because this serve
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was something the game had never seen
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before i watched tape after tape of them
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and
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and stood across the net from them about
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three different times and i started to
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realize he had this weird tick with his
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tongue i’m not kidding he would go into
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his his rocking motion his his
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same
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routine and just as he was about to toss
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the ball he would stick his tongue out
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and it would either be right in the
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middle of his lip
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or it would be to the left corner of his
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lip so if he’s serving in the deuce
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court and he put his tongue in the
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middle of his lip he was either serving
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up the middle or to the body
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but if he put it to the side he was
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going to serve out what the hardest part
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wasn’t
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wasn’t returning a serve the hardest
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part was not letting him know that i
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knew this
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so i had to resist the temptation
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of reading his serve for the majority of
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the match and choose the moments when i
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was going to use that information
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on a given point i told him at
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oktoberfest we went out in oktoberfest
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in germany and had a
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had a pint of beer together and
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and i couldn’t help but say by the way
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did you
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do you know you used to do this and give
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away sir
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he uh he about fell fell off the chair
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and he says i used to go home
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all the time and just tell my wife
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it’s like he reads my mind
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how how good is uh is andre agassi in
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that
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that’s so good and
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yeah and how good was the tongue
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i think
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i just i love i love the story and i
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love the story um
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you just want to be the fly on the wall
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when um andre akasi is telling boris
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about how he worked out to return serve
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and and i think um you know
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if you’re listening you’ve figured out
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the relationship here
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um yeah andre i guess he had a problem
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um you know i grew up watching um agassi
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play tennis and
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um boris play tennis and they were
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heroes of our era
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generation x i’m going to say maybe yx
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and
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uh i love the fact that agassi stopped
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and he goes i can’t
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i just can’t beat i just can’t beat his
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serve
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um why can’t i beat his serve
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and and the the first thing he did was
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he identified the roadblock to winning
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against boris
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um
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and so which was
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to beat his servant
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yeah he yeah so
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and that’s actually half the problem and
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and we stress this so much in our
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um in our growth framework um
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you know what’s the problem to solve
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what’s the roadblock the weekly
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discipline of coming together and
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identifying roadblocks against your
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goals
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and so the first critical thing agassi
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did was actually get clear on the
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roadblock he goes actually that’s my
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genuine roadblock
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so what did he do
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um
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lesson number two he stepped back and he
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goes
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all right i’m going to just watch hours
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and hours of my
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my competitor my customer and my
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opponent
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serving
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and so he did his research and
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and i think that’s the genius of
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agassi coming through it’s not just the
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brawn and the muscle and the physique
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on on the court he’s the thinking mind
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which leads to unlocking the problem
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because he suddenly
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identifies a tell a trigger point a data
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point um yeah and and all of our
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customers have those um
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there is something
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the process to identify is
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is
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observing and listening and
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so he first of all he identifies the
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roadblock secondly he identifies the
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trigger point the data point
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thirdly he turns that insight into
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intellectual property
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yeah he now has ip
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he can use on court
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to beat boris
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and that ip is turned into a practice a
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a thing he does we’d call that a
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practice in our model a part of your
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business model it’s it’s something that
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you do
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as a part of your business model your
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game play
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that reinforces competitive advantage
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and in doing that
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he he could now unlock the chance to get
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to the next uh the next step of the
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journey which was returning serve and
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ultimately he knew that he could he
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could win on the return of serve more
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often than not
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so this key
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unlocked the capacity to win
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it was a really critical milestone and
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so i just i love that he actually says
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in that he goes
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uh i had to actually kind of let some go
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like just so that it didn’t look like i
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knew what he was doing like he so he had
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to choose which points he wanted to win
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isn’t that an amazing good position to
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be in
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isn’t it isn’t it i better lose a couple
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otherwise i’m going to give the game
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away that’s right and that’s i mean
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that’s that’s true in sales and
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marketing um
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you know
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i love sitting and talking to really
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good sales people and marketers i learn
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so much
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and one of the things you learn is their
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innate ability to know when they’re
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going to win that deal
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and and they know
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so early on in the process often
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because
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the they’ve identified the trigger
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points and the characteristics of that
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ideal deal
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and
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and they know they’ll make it happen and
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that infuriates
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often young marketers and and managers
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because they’re like no no treat
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everybody the same and do everything the
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same and and the more experience you get
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you quickly learn where should i invest
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time and where should i not invest time
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um and
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these tells these trigger points unlock
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those duty yeah
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i just think that’s an amazing story i’d
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love to have been a fly on the wall um
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listening to when he eventually told him
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um and and revealed it now and so i if
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there’s anything out of today’s episode
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um
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it’s
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it’s it’s that customer experience is
23:46
the science
23:47
of understanding those tells throughout
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the journey
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and as you build up your playbook of
23:54
tills you design and deliver content and
23:57
services
23:58
to make it easy to respond to that tell
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that that is all this process is and all
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we’re doing is using the skills of sales
24:07
and marketing and service and digital
24:08
tech
24:09
to effectively do that more often and so
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the practical thing for teams
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yeah is
24:17
to forget about marketing departments or
24:19
sales departments or service departments
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you might have teams within teams but to
24:24
think about journey management and
24:27
who owns what part of the journey and
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how
24:30
how do we use people in tech to manage
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that journey really well
24:35
so that we understand how to get people
24:38
through that journey and the second
24:39
thing so the first is
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let’s not think about departments let’s
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think about journey management
24:47
and who owns what stage of the journey
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and what tells us when handoff is
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and then secondly
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is the science of continuous improvement
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on that
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what goals exist across that journey and
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how do we continuously improve on making
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that better how do we think like agassi
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going how do i unlock the serve how do i
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unlock this serve for this type of
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customer
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and when you think like that every
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quarter you’ll be focusing on improving
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each step of the tuning
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i was going to say it’s in this approach
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it’s probably
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easier
25:23
to find that you have advocates before a
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transaction has actually even taken
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place
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um
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here’s my example
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so
25:32
for example um
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let’s hypothetically say i’m talking to
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my to a real estate agent who’s
25:39
constantly been in conversation with me
25:41
for like forever about the sale of a
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house yes um
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and
25:45
because we’ve developed a rapport
25:47
because they’ve tracked me through that
25:49
process it’s inevitable
25:52
like that um at some point we’re going
25:55
to sell our house through that
25:57
agent yes because of the rapport and and
25:59
so
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they’ve actually developed an advocate
26:02
long before a transaction has taken
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place
26:04
yeah and and you’re right and this this
26:06
is probably a whole other episode but
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i’ll do it in 30 seconds we build trust
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by solving small problems on the journey
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to the big problem
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and so when
26:15
when trust is built through the small
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things on the journey
26:20
when when when you’re considering okay
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who will i list my home with which agent
26:25
already that agent because they’ve
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solved small amounts of trust along the
26:30
buying journey by the time you’re ready
26:31
to make a decision
26:33
other people who may be better who may
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have better outcomes
26:37
don’t have the trust levels that have
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been built up
26:41
and so
26:42
so the value in in the relationship
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isn’t there and so yeah you’re exactly
26:47
right so there’s a
26:49
it does make you think differently about
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the journey steps
26:54
it does force you to go what are my
26:56
trigger points along the journey and how
26:58
do i create value
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so practically
27:04
you can
27:05
jump into waymaker academy
27:07
and you can download
27:09
customer experience resources just
27:11
search
27:13
at waymaker.io
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and most importantly
27:17
if you take
27:19
the waymaker diagnostic
27:21
look at your results on the diagnostic
27:24
for cx sales cx marketing cx service
27:28
and it’s one of the deepest meatiest
27:30
elements of the diagnostic and you will
27:32
find growth gaps areas where in your
27:36
business you need to build maturity and
27:38
strength in order to lift that skill um
27:41
and you’ll get that in 15 to 20 minutes
27:43
so that’s that’s probably the most
27:45
practical thing you could do uh coming
27:48
coming out of this podcast
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awesome waymaker.io
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for those that are looking for the url
27:54
stu always a pleasure
27:56
let’s chat more
27:58
about how to achieve more
28:00
by doing less in the next episode
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you
It’s all about how we acquire, retain and grow customers
Across organization’s, we organise their business into six interconnected buckets – or slices of pie as we like to call it. These include…
- Vision
- Market
- Strategy
- Business Model
- Customer Experience
- Employee Experience
In the end, it’s all about how we acquire, retain and grow the right talent.
To help you do this, the Waymaker team are well versed in helping leaders shift their teams into the right behaviours to get them to their end goal which is continuing to grow their businesses profitability.
Gone are the days…
Some of the practices businesses used in the 20th century are no longer applicable to the 21st century. We need to start thinking more deeply and differently to the way we reach our consumers.
Waymaker’s Seven Questions help you do that. They are backed into the diagnostic and algorithms of Waymaker.
When you take the Waymaker diagnostic, it measures your organization on practice skills so as a leader of your organization, you can work out what area you need to work on first.
We all be tackle customer experience at some point
It’s our belief that from research and observation across many businesses from the last five to ten years that there are six things that you need to keep in balance to maintain customer growth. As your organization grows and scales up the curve, those six things must stay balanced.
Every organization at some point will be attacking the area of customer experience. Trying to find fit by understanding how they systematically and repeatedly acquire, retain, and grow customers. There is an underlying notion of how we continue to improve that.
It is important that these six areas of the business are kept in a state of alignment and are healthy.
Why customer experience?
Customer experience is the unification of sales, marketing, and service on technology to create inspirational branded moments across the customer journey.
The customer experience is not about working in departments in silos, but working as a product team, or a service team, or a team with the skills of sales, marketing, and service to draw that customer through a journey.
The customer journey has dramatically changed over the last 5 to 15 years. We have had to bring in digital elements of technology and we must understand the journey as a distinct journey and that’s the big shift.
Peter Drucker, Austrian-American management consultant, educator, and author, whose writings contributed to the philosophical and practical foundations of the modern business corporation has inspired the Waymaker team on the way they view the customer experience.
“Marketing is not a function; it is the whole business seen from the customer’s point of view.”
— Peter Drucker
The customer journey has evolved
The customer journey has evolved as there is now a large technology element and how technology is used to engage. Technology is used to engage because it is the foundation or every discipline in the business world.
There is technology to understand all seven questions of the framework.
There is no such thing as the technology department anymore. Now, technology permeates every department of the business.
There is science around unpacking the customer journey
The CX bucket is all about the science behind the customer journey. There is so much data around the consumers journey. We can understand the roadblocks, the steps, the triggers and so much more.
Customer experience is the science of sales, marketing, and service and behind that is technology. It supports those disciplines and it’s about continuing to build the teams in your organization that aren’t just marketing, sales or service teams, but customer experience teams. You need to deploy skills of selling, marketing and service at all different points along the consumers journey.
You don’t want to just limit that to three departments.
It’s all about delight
For the customer, life is hard enough already. We are here to solve a problem. So, the journey needs to understand how to bring awareness of your product/service to them and that you are there with a solution to solve their problem.
Customer experience is about saying…
“How do we identify roadblocks?”
“How do we make that journey smoother to purchase and repurchase?”
But how do you do this?
The Waymaker Leadership Model is a continuous improvement model. It’s known as the acquisition retention process.
You have to understand and know how to continuously remove the roadblocks in the consumers way. Once you have the processes, skills and systems in place, it is smooth sailing from there on out. It becomes easy to acquire consumers through consistent, repetitive systems and processes.
We can’t stress this enough
To drive valuable customer growth, you need to…
- Understand the problem that needs to be solved
- Know what the problem is that needs to be solved
- The roadblock inhibiting the consumer
- The weekly discipline of coming together
- The roadblocks against your goals
As you build up your playbook of tills, you design and deliver content and services to make it easier to respond. And, you’re going to do this using the skills of sales and marketing and service and digital technology.
Start building a valuable customer journey for your organization
- Jump onto Waymaker Academy
- Download customer experience resources
- Take the Waymaker Diagnostic
- Look at your results for CX sales, CX marketing, CX service
You’ll find growth gap areas where in your business you need to build maturity and strength to lift that skill.
